Fox Business -- and car expert Lauren Fix -- seem confused about EV myths.

Lauren Fix Disses EVs (Again) on Fox Business. We Set The Record Straight On Her ‘Expert’ Advice

Don’t buy a used EV because you don’t know if the previous owner remembered to keep the coolant filled up and the battery pack may have died as a result. That’s the advice given by automotive expert Lauren Fix during a segment on falling EV sales during the month of January on popular right-wing, EV-hating news network Fox Business.  She also incorrectly advised that electric cars have tiny cargo carrying capabilities due to their massive battery packs intruding into the cabin, ‘typically’ suffer a 50 percent reduction in range in cold weather, and are worth so little used that they’re really a bad investment anyway.  Moreover she adds, there are gasoline and diesel cars on the market which get ‘better gas mileage’ than an EV, so what’s the point anyway?

No, we’re not kidding. Watch this:

Get better gas mileage? Err? What? No, seriously, that’s what she said. But fear not, because we’re about to tell you the many ways she’s got it wrong, so you can put down that paper bag you’re hyperventilating into .

Yes folks, there’s another round of electric vehicle misinformation doing the rounds in the mainstream media and as expected, it’s coming straight at you from the Murdock Empire from the mouth of New York automotive journalist Lauren Fix, AKA “The Car Coach”. While we’ve taken to ignoring en-masse most of these type of segments — especially from Fox — the level of incompetency demonstrated here is so large we just had to bite. So sit back, and read on as we point out just some of the things Fix has said which make absolutely no sense whatsoever, along with the real-world facts to go along with them.

Fix: “People may be thinking EVs aren’t a great choice for me right now” since gas prices are still ‘affordable.’

T.E: While yes, we’re sure someone, somewhere is regretting buying an EV — just like there are hundreds of people regretting their internal combustion engine car purchase — the overwhelming majority of EV owners we know enjoy not paying out for gas every week. Even with gas prices in the U.S. staying relatively low (Nikki paid just $20 to fill up a rental Toyota Prius last week) EV owners stand to save on their purchase due to lower servicing costs, lower insurance, and less time spent queuing for gas.

 Fix: “You don’t see [electric cars] in places like New York. San Francisco and Georgia, Atlanta, are where EVs are sold.”

T.E: Wow, just wow. We’ve been all over the U.S., and last time we checked, there were cars like the Tesla Model S in all fifty states. All of them. Admittedly, some areas — like the San Francisco Bay Area — are known for being more EV friendly than others, but when it comes to EV-friendly places where EVs are really popular, Oregon, Washington and New Jersey all come high on the list. And New York? That’s there too, partly thanks to its close proximity to New Jersey.  It used to be the case that it was easier to name the places where EVs were popular. These days, it’s easier to name the places where EVs aren’t.

Fox Business -- and car expert Lauren Fix -- seem confused about EV myths.

Fox Business — and car expert Lauren Fix — seem confused about EV myths.

Fix: “Cold weather can actually cut the battery life in half, and that’s pretty typical when the weather is sub-zero”

T.E: Back in the old days of  lead-acid battery packs in EVs, cold weather really did dramatically reduce range, sometimes knocking twenty or even thirty miles off the useable battery range. That much is true. With the advent of advanced lithium-ion battery technologies — the sort found in every production electric car on the market today — cold-weather range depreciation is far less. Even on the few cars like the Nissan LEAF which rely on passive rather than active thermal management, range reduction in cold weather is far less than half of the car’s overall range. And that kind of range reduction is only noticeable when temperatures plummet to thirty or forty degrees below.  At or around freezing point, range reduction is likely to be no more than ten miles or so in cars without active thermal management.

On cars like the Tesla Model S, Chevrolet Volt, and BMW i3 — all of which have active, water-based thermal management to keep the battery pack at optimum operating temperature — range reduction due to cold weather is even less noticeable. Need proof? We’ve driven EVs like the Volvo C30 Electric more than 60 miles on a charge in arctic conditions, and Tesla recently went across the U.S. in massive snowstorms.  In fact, as Tesla proved, EVs in sub-zero temperatures are often more reliable than gasoline cars!

Fix: “Resale value on EVs are so low because people don’t want them.”

T.E: This is a big topic, and one we’ve had to do battle with in the past. Used EV prices are partly so low because of dropping new EV prices. For example, cars like the Nissan LEAF and Chevrolet Volt are now far more affordable to buy new now then they were three years ago when they entered the market.  The LEAF, for example, has dropped its sticker price by more than $5,000 in the past three years. So too have the Mitsubishi i-Miev, Chevrolet Volt and Ford Focus Electric.

If the new price of a product drops that dramatically over three years, so too will the used prices.

There’s also another reason for low residual values: lease companies are risk averse and electric cars are new. With the typical lease arrangement being two or three years in length, the very first electric cars which were brand new in 2011 and 2012 are only just coming to the end of their lease period. Because lease companies didn’t know how well the battery packs would fare during those first few years of the electric car market, they placed low residual values on electric cars to protect their investment. That in part has helped drive used prices down.

Lack of luggage space? Err... no.

Lack of luggage space? Err… no.

Fix: If a former owner didn’t “maintain the inverter fluid” you’ll have an expensive repair bill (and maybe need a new battery pack.)

T.E: This is a completely new one to us. Yes, EVs do have fluid to keep inverter electronics cool, but unlike oil changes in gasoline cars, the coolant on a car like the Nissan LEAF is expected to last 125,000 miles — or fifteen years. So unless you’re buying a first-generation EV — i.e. a used, high-mileage 2002 Toyota RAV4 EV or S10 pickup truck from the same era, you won’t have to worry about that particular problem just yet.

Fix: “30-40 miles a day round trip might be okay” if you’re looking to buy an EV

T.E: It’s a known fact that more than 95 percent of all daily driving needs can be met by an EV. Only in extreme cases — when you’re commuting between two major cities an hour or more apart — would you perhaps need to reconsider an EV purchase choice or look to get a longer-range EV like the Tesla Model S.  In all honesty though, the 30-40 mile daily range restriction Fix is suggesting is very low for our real-world experience. We know people who drive double that every day without recharging, and one driver we know even manages a 130 mile daily commute thanks to rapid quick-charge stations on his local interstate.

Our advice? Most EVs on the market today can easily manage a 50-70 mile round-trip to and from work with ease, without recharging. You’ll only find trouble with those distance commutes if you’re really heavy with your right foot, live in extremely hilly places, or like to break the speed limit with gay abandon.

Fix: “Some diesel and gasoline cars get better economy” than electric cars

T.E: Watching Fix say that cars like the Ford Fiesta and many other cars on the market get 43-50 miles per U.S. gallon is like watching a car crash in slow-motion, especially when she suggests that gasoline cars can get better gas mileage than electric ones.  Of course, we’re already well aware that claim is utterly unfounded, but if you need any further convincing, take a look at official EPA gas-mileage figures and we think you’ll agree that the highest-perofrming economy, measured in miles per gallon equivalent, comes from EVs.

Further more, as NASA published last week and the Automotive Science Group detailed this week, electric cars are not only cheeper to run but better for the environment, even on today’s grid power mix.

iMiEV rapid charging on an ecotricity electric highway charger

EVs are greener, more affordable to run. Fact.

Fix:”EVs have a lot smaller trunks than gasoline cars” 

T.E: By her comment, we think that perhaps Fix has only driven cars like the Ford Focus Electric, Ford C-Max Energi plug-in hybrid and BMW ActiveE, because while these cars do have smaller trunk space than their gasoline counterparts, most electric cars on the market today have more than enough space for luggage. In the case of the Tesla Model S and Nissan LEAF, they have more luggage space than a comparable gasoline vehicle.

The difference here is between converted cars — ones originally made as gasoline models but then converted to electric variants by automakers — versus factory-designed and factory-built EVs.

In the case of the Ford Focus Electric, C-Max Energi and limited-run BMW ActiveE, load area is smaller than they would be in their comparable gasoline counterparts (Ford Focus, C-Max, 1-Seires BMW) because the respective engineers for each company have had to shoehorn large battery packs into a chassis never designed to take them.

But with the Nissan LEAF, its low-slung, under-body battery pack leaves more luggage room in the trunk than you’d find with a comparable gasoline car because there’s no exhaust system or fuel tank behind the rear axle.

In the case of the Tesla Model S, the battery pack even forms part of the car’s chassis, along with the electric motor and power inverter. This leaves not only the rear trunk completely free for luggage — more than some SUVs in fact — but even opens up a front-luggage area — or frunk — for owner use. When it comes to how big that is, we’re happy to tell you that Nikki can fit inside. We know, because she’s tried it.

Biased much? 

Fix’s whole five minute segment was aired under the headline that electric car sales fell in January, despite U.S. government incentives, but we’re also pretty sure that’s an unfair headline too.

For a start, automotive sales in January always fall, no matter what segment you look at. That’s because people have just filed (and paid) their annual taxes, the holiday season has just ended, and the weather isn’t exactly conducive in most of the U.S. for visiting dealer lots and test-driving cars.

For the electric car market too, there’s a natural lull at the start of the year due to the way in which Federal tax credits for EVs are applied. Buy an EV in January, and you’ll have to wait almost an entire year to claim your $7,500 Federal tax credit back from the U.S. government. It makes more sense then, to buy your brand new EV in November or December, when you’ll only have a few months to wait for your rebate.

We’re keen to see what you make of Lauren Fix’s very failed attempt to dismiss electric cars, and we’ve reached out to her on various social media sites to see if she’ll talk to us about her misconceptions. We’ll let you know what happens.


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  • CDspeed

    The biggest threat to electric cars is………..stupidity!

  • ggerke

    If you ever noticed on Fox News pages, there’s no place for comments. Have you heard of a “News” organization not accepting comments. Control the message and create the narrative…

  • “Because lease companies didnu2019t know how well the battery packs would fare dying those first few years…” — I think you meant ‘during’.nn”The difference here is between converted cars u2014 ones originally made as gasoline models but then converted to gasoline variants by automakers…” — I think you meant converted to ‘electric’.nnnn”…front luggage area — or frank” — I think you meant ‘frunk’.nnnAs for the misinformation campaigns from certain outlets, the lies are now obvious to most people. They can only destroy what little credibility they may have had remaining by preaching such drivel.

    • Thank you. We’re blaming our auto-correct software. 😉 (And we’ve just fixed it!)

    • Reading teleprompter fail! nnFox text seems to have been written by someone inhaling too much ‘clean’ diesel. The particulates having restricted blood flow to their brain.

  • danwat1234

    At least you can comment on the Youtube video

  • offib

    This one’s worse than that guy in pajamas who made up a story about driving a LEAF that was parked on the side of a street. Misinformation and thus ignorance are the biggest roadblocks to progress.

    • Mark Chatterley

      That video is so weird. Loved every second of it for its bizarreness.

      • offib

        It was, but they are cringeworthy. I hate these false pundits! It reminds me of a DORKLY comic I recently seen where tv channels are compared to games. Fox News being compared to Amnesia. “You can’t look at it for more than 5 minutes at a time without having to take a break.”nnnI’d say they’re rather malicious! Pajama Bottoms, The Three ‘Wise’ Men and Fix It Again Tony, they have a primary adjective like any propagandist. Demonise the opposition, facts aren’t necessary. They’re unlikely to charge their opinions even when there are facts handed to them that disagrees with their statements and proves why. They are bent over to be right, bent over to get more people to agree with them and bent over to devalue their opponents argument.nnnThe fact that there are so many people oblivious of plugins and even hybrids, they can be easily convinced by the finest journalism Fox and Ms.Fix has offered. It’s even more convincing if their argument sounds like they confirm stereotypes like EVs losing half of their charge on a winter’s day or taking a fortnight to charge.nnnSo from Fix to James May and the rest, their misinformation can easily be adopted. Ignorance is the kindest thing I can describe from all I saw in those two videos. If it’s not ignorance, it’s a liar shoving lies down the throats of people who are curious to know what’s what.

        • Guy Gooch

          Another great quote from Lauren Fix concerning solar power was why Germany is using solar panels so well is because they get more sun then the US… nIdiots all of them!!!!!

      • Guy Gooch

        Mark it makes me angry and embarrassed to be an American when I hear them talking.. Such lies…

    • Stephen Pace

      Link please! I missed that one. 🙂

  • Unfortunately Fox has become a humorous topic in the EV community. No one watches that outlet for serious independent EV news. By the way, since when is that person a “automotive expert”? Sometimes, I think it’s best letting barking dogs yap in the dark. Fox is not worth the energy we put correcting them. They love that. It’s publicity after all.

  • Bill Davis

    Just a nit:nn”For a start, automotive sales in January always fall, no matter what segment you look at. Thatu2019s because people have just filed (and paid) their annual taxes…”nnnnHow many people do you know that pay their annual taxes in January? It’s rare to have all of your paperwork in order that early. nnnNow the holiday hangover you mention, that’s fairly common!

    • Mark Chatterley

      I had to pay my taxes in January. But I’m a self-employed Brit.

    • Auto sales fall in January because that is when the credit card bills for Christmas need to be paid. After a huge round of consumerism from Black Friday to Christmas Eve, nobody wants to buy anything for a while.

  • lad76

    Fix has a lot of ICE knowledge and has spend some time SCCA racing; but, sounds like she’s getting her EV information third hand. Without digging deeply in the facts for the subtleties of understanding the new technology of EVs, she will present shallow or distorted answers to EV questions…Or, she’s on the fossil fuel industries payroll.

  • Marc Fontana

    “cold weather can cut the battery life in half…” Really? I thought it was hot weather that was more damaging to the battery? Most Li-ion battery experts agree that if you want your battery cells to last… put them in your fridge.

    • Yes, hot weather does permanent damage. Cold weather merely temporarily reduces capacity. Everybody knows that, except of course the Fox news car experts.

  • So thinking u2026 if a news paper makes a mistake, they’re required to publicly post a correction. nnIs there a similar requirement for broadcast news? I know broadcast news outlets are licensed, but by far removed from the domain u2026 but would be interesting to see the FOX news video with overlaid captions noting inaccuracies in the the video as it plays. I assume that reporting news on the news would be covered under fair use? n

  • The author of this article missed primary reason for EV’s to apparently suffer so much depreciation: tax incentives. As soon as you drive the LEAF off the lot, it’s worth $ 7,500 less (or 10,000 or 12,500, depending on which state you live in). nnOf course people are comparing post-incentive prices when shopping for a car and deciding to get a new or a used one.

  • alvord1430

    Lauren Fix isn’t against all electric cars. Just EVs not made by BMW. Lauren can talk endlessly about the i8 and why to buy it instead of a Tesla.

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